tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post3151169084314131987..comments2024-02-15T00:09:20.725-08:00Comments on Signal to Noise: a rocky road out of town.Signal to Noisehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18128427529258396556noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-20325990562877731702007-01-29T10:56:00.000-08:002007-01-29T10:56:00.000-08:00Whatever, Helton gets paid something in excess of ...Whatever, Helton gets paid something in excess of $12 mil a season to hit 20 hrs and 80 rbis. ridiculous. As much as I like Helton, he's gotta go.<br /><br />Also, it's not the producer of the beverages and food's fault that we pay $8 for a beer at coors field; it's the fault of the owners of Coors Field who charge Aramark or Sysco or whoever supplies the food and drink so much money to supply the food, who then charge us all that money for the concessions. So get your facts straight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-48917003905185284212007-01-28T21:33:00.000-08:002007-01-28T21:33:00.000-08:00I love how the Yankees seem to have gotten smart (...I love how the Yankees seem to have gotten smart (focus on prospects, get younger and cheaper), while the Sox have gotten dumb (JD Drew)Marcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18318685160482268800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-53914509294849369542007-01-28T19:09:00.000-08:002007-01-28T19:09:00.000-08:00Anonymous 3:12, most people feel DelCarmen has com...Anonymous 3:12, most people feel DelCarmen has come on stronger as of late. I mean, yeah, Hansen could be a pretty good 95 MPH fastball, good slider pitcher, but that's not really unique. Manny DelCarmen, meanwhile, has a High 90's fastball, a decent curveball, and a knee-bending curve. Also, before his thumb issues last season, he was doing fairly well in the bigs, while Hansen has done very little to distinguish himself.<br /><br />As far as this trade, Lowell+Tavarez+Hansen would be acceptable, but I would prefer Lowell+Tavarez+any two of Kason Gabbard, David Pauley, Kyle Snyder, Lenny DiNardo, JC Romero, and Javier Lopez.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-18691563531266637852007-01-28T15:55:00.000-08:002007-01-28T15:55:00.000-08:00Modified. Apologies.Modified. Apologies.Signal to Noisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18128427529258396556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-51920382900706323692007-01-28T15:48:00.000-08:002007-01-28T15:48:00.000-08:00Yeah but he was drafted in 95.Yeah but he was drafted in 95.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-41691245948547947262007-01-28T15:43:00.000-08:002007-01-28T15:43:00.000-08:00Nice opening sentence.
Helton's first year was ...Nice opening sentence. <br /><br />Helton's first year was 1997.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-38951672073391049282007-01-28T15:32:00.000-08:002007-01-28T15:32:00.000-08:00It's true that Youk played 3rd in the minors and i...It's true that Youk played 3rd in the minors and in his first partial year in the bigs. At the beginning of the 06 season, they had signed JT Snow to act as a platoon partner with Youk. Thing is, by July Youkilis was a very, very good defender; that and his bat made Snow completely expendable. And he's already much better playing 1st then he's ever been playing 3rd.<br /><br />If Helton comes, Youk can move to 3rd base and do a decent job. If he doesn't, Youk will stay at first where he's well above average defensively. Defensively, Boston's almost certainly better off with Lowell and Youkilis then Youk and Helton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-7425746955237765342007-01-28T15:18:00.000-08:002007-01-28T15:18:00.000-08:00Isn't Youkilis a 3B by trade? I remember reading t...Isn't Youkilis a 3B by trade? I remember reading this, and it seems the logical conclusion if this gets pulled off. Of course, the pressure is on Colorado to make this happen; they're the ones looking to do a payroll dump.Signal to Noisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18128427529258396556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-74240382516076934812007-01-28T15:12:00.000-08:002007-01-28T15:12:00.000-08:00"The article reads that both are off-limits, but g..."The article reads that both are off-limits, but given the need for a first baseman with glove skills, I'd bet the deal probably gets done if the Rockies ask for one and not both."<br /><br />Bud...Boston has a 1B with glove skills. Youkilis was one of the best fielding 1B in the AL last season, (per Dave Pinto's fielding metrics.) Trust me here: They are under NO pressure to get this done. Further, the Herald already reported that the Rox have more or less been doing all the talking; Boston is listening, but they definately aren't the ones driving the conversation.<br /><br />And Hansen should be off-limits, but Delcarmen should at least be considered, particularly if the Rox take half Helton's salary. I don't think he projects to be much more than a 7th inning guy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-8461167429445268302007-01-28T15:02:00.000-08:002007-01-28T15:02:00.000-08:00Craig Hansen and Manny Delcarmen don't sound like ...Craig Hansen and Manny Delcarmen don't sound like lower-tier, if ESPN is to be believed and the Red Sox think these guys are deal-breakers. The article reads that both are off-limits, but given the need for a first baseman with glove skills, I'd bet the deal probably gets done if the Rockies ask for one and not both.Signal to Noisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18128427529258396556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-41768213875515056582007-01-28T15:00:00.000-08:002007-01-28T15:00:00.000-08:00Ah, so the Red Sox went from being the Yankees to ...Ah, so the Red Sox went from being the Yankees to being Yankees Lite. What's next in the regression, "Not the Yankees"?<br /><br />It might serve you to do a little math before making a Helton-to-the-Sox deal a player purchase. Depending on the talent involved and the salary assumed (of which we know very little -- hell the deal isn't even real necessarily), and the salaries involved, this may be nothing but a net-zero add for the Sox' payroll. I don't see how this makes the Red Sox into the Yankees, who at last check still spent the equivalent of two or three team payrolls more than the Red Sox.<br /><br />That's not to cry poverty, but the meme that the Sox and the Yanks are exactly the same is tiresome. They may not be as different as they were two, three, four years ago, but only exaggeration makes them into carbon copies of each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-73558491276176916752007-01-28T14:55:00.000-08:002007-01-28T14:55:00.000-08:00Fair enough, though I still think it depends on th...Fair enough, though I still think it depends on the deal. Last I checked, trading a single prospect along with some veteran talent for a star player doesn't exactly constitute a 'selling the farm' type of move. Granted, Boston's financial flexibility in the future is what makes this a feasible option, but this still seems more then a little different from the way Boston and New York operated in the past. This ain't exactly Jeff Bagwell: The Sequel.<br /><br />Of course, I'm assuming it's only a single prospect, and not an elite one at that. Boston has a surplus of hard throwing right-handers who project to be solid MRs...giving up one of the lower tier versions wouldn't be a huge deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-22907823939776234222007-01-28T14:44:00.000-08:002007-01-28T14:44:00.000-08:00The trade is and would be smart by financial stand...The trade is and would be smart by financial standards, but it's still Yanks Lite behavior in the sense of sacrificing farm prospects for what isn't a guaranteed fix -- Helton's numbers have dropped over the past few years with an injury-prone back, and we are talking about a career NL player switching leagues. <br /><br />Now, the switch isn't as severe for hitters as it is for pitching and Helton will have the short right field in Fenway at his disposal, so it's ten times better than the Drew signing.<br /><br />It's not so much a payroll thing -- if this trade gets done, the Rockies will likely have to pick up a fair amount of the tab.Signal to Noisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18128427529258396556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-46530383357336415082007-01-28T14:33:00.000-08:002007-01-28T14:33:00.000-08:00Uhh...what about if Boston doesn't actually add an...Uhh...what about if Boston doesn't actually add any payroll? Since the Lowell/Tavarez/Prospect deal would essentially be replacing $10MM with $10MM, while filling a hole for next season...which would have had to be filled anyway via trade or FA...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-11561797916001711492007-01-28T14:09:00.000-08:002007-01-28T14:09:00.000-08:00Signing J.D. Drew will be remembered as Theo Epste...Signing J.D. Drew will be remembered as Theo Epstein's "I'm Keith Hernandez!" moment.Signal to Noisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18128427529258396556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-64352550302479765832007-01-28T12:36:00.000-08:002007-01-28T12:36:00.000-08:00Daisuke doesn't worry me as much as J.D. Drew does...Daisuke doesn't worry me as much as J.D. Drew does. <br /><br />They spent like four years trying to unload one contract that was too big for other teams to take on (Manny Ramirez), only to go out and do it again.One More Dying Quailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01247696588053891194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-23575993486147049962007-01-28T06:53:00.000-08:002007-01-28T06:53:00.000-08:00Really, I never thought I'd see the day when Bosto...Really, I never thought I'd see the day when Boston was spending money like it was going out of style and the Yankees were trading overpaid veterans out of town.<br /><br />You had better hope Daisuke works out.Signal to Noisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18128427529258396556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35665323.post-67857108754767369542007-01-27T23:13:00.000-08:002007-01-27T23:13:00.000-08:00"Boston fans, your baseball team is acting like th..."Boston fans, your baseball team is acting like the fucking Yankees."<br /><br />Fuck you, STN. Fuck you...<br /><br />*dissolves into tears*<br /><br />I hate the Yankees! Why do the Red Sox have to become Yankees Lite?! Why God?! WHY?!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I'm okay now. I think. Talk to me in October. Or November.One More Dying Quailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01247696588053891194noreply@blogger.com